08 October 2008

Cultural isolation

Posted by Scottish Unionist at 9:01 PM. There are 12 comments.
As perfectly exemplified by Fiona Hyslop:
I was brought up as a child in England but my father wanted to make sure I knew about my Scottish roots and identity. He even laid the Wallace tartan carpet in the hall in our house. I learned about my country by being a Scot away from it, starting from those early days when I learned to crawl on that carpet ... It’s time to build a better life in a better country for my 3 children and all the children of Scotland who deserve so much better than we get from the Union with England.
I really can’t fathom this mindset. Just how wildly different does she imagine England to be?
12 comments
  1. Malc October 8, 2008 11:06 PM  

    At the risk of sounding glib...

    Maybe they don't have tartan carpets?

    Incidentally, I don't think you can call it cultural isolation to be proud of your heritage and want to promote it - as, evidently, Fiona Hyslop's father did.

    And from that statement, there's nothing suggesting that Scotland is better than England - or, in case anyone wants to twist it, that being Scottish is better than being English. What she is saying is that, while there may have been a time when the Union served Scotland well (I'm thinking hard...) now Scotland would be better served independent.

    A rational nationalist argument - not vitriol, not anglo-phobic, not xenophobic. Right?

  2. Stonemason October 9, 2008 6:17 AM  

    It was just a sound bite to underpin her political affiliation, I wouldn't use "rational", maybe "hypocrisy".

    Just a Nationalist using "Smoke and Mirrors" in an attempt to "conjure" up an illusion of pastoral contentment.

    Pathetic in the extreme.

  3. sm753 October 9, 2008 9:00 AM  

    Ah!

    Perhaps the childhood trauma of that carpet explains her desire to financially discriminate against all non-Scottish UK undergraduates, as discussed here previously?

  4. DG October 9, 2008 12:19 PM  

    Ah, Brigadoonery. Tartan carpets, is it? No doubt they specially imported shortbread and claimed the tap water was worse down south when they were indoctrinating their offspring...

  5. BSH October 9, 2008 1:27 PM  

    Ah, people having non-unionist aspirations are now simply pathetic or lying? Clearly a member of the tin-foil hat wearing, union-jack waving brigade.

    Strangely, some people choose to be Scottish, some people choose to be English and some people even choose to be British!

    Deal with it! The only way someones cultural identity can be changed is through their own choice; not via the use of 'Smoke and Mirrors' or mayhaps you view everyone except yourself with contempt.

  6. g-simonardottir October 9, 2008 5:03 PM  

    Ah, people having non-unionist aspirations are now simply pathetic or lying?

    Alternatively she's simply an example of that outsider in one social setting who, after being spoon-fed an idealised image of the cultural identity she was told she was missing, considers herself to be the arbiter of good taste. A rather common and uncomplicated patho-psychology seen a thousand times over in "Irish Americans" who'd never set foot on Ireland or had but one Irish grand-parent.

    See also the figures in extreme Republicanism of the 1970s who turned out either to be Protestant or, even, English.

    Reading her statement, she comes across as one of those great IAMs. It's all about what she did, what she experienced, what she wants.

  7. g-simonardottir October 9, 2008 5:04 PM  

    Ah, people having non-unionist aspirations are now simply pathetic or lying?

    Alternatively she's simply an example of that outsider in one social setting who, after being spoon-fed an idealised image of the cultural identity she was told she was missing, considers herself to be the arbiter of good taste. A rather common and uncomplicated patho-psychology seen a thousand times over in "Irish Americans" who'd never set foot on Ireland or had but one Irish grand-parent.

    See also the figures in extreme Republicanism of the 1970s who turned out either to be Protestant or, even, English.

  8. Wyrdtimes October 11, 2008 8:21 PM  

    We don't miss you Ms Hyslop any more than we'll miss the Gallaghers when they have the decency to leave England.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/theticket/2008/1003/1222815469295.html?via=mr

    The door's always open. Hopefully Mc Broon will have a boot up his arse when he leaves.

    So Mr Unionist got anything for English nationalists? It will be us that brings the curtain down.

    The Scots are too feart.

  9. Scottish Unionist October 11, 2008 8:43 PM  

    Unreconstructed English nationalism: Scots out, Irish out. In the 21st century, too. Insult us all you like, but decent people, in England as elsewhere, recoil from such filth.

  10. g-simonardottir October 11, 2008 10:13 PM  

    Wyrdtimes, you are Robin Tilbrook, and I claim my five pounds!

  11. Wyrdtimes October 12, 2008 8:54 AM  

    Filth to you cheeky too you ckeeky git.

    Did I say Scots out Irish out?

    No. But we won't miss the parasites like Hyslop and Galagher - and there are a lot of them down here.

    Your union is done for - only a matter of time.

  12. g-simonardottir October 12, 2008 11:35 AM  

    Are you subs for the EDP not due, Wyrd?