03 August 2008

Vilification of the SNP’s opponents

Posted by Scottish Unionist at 12:59 PM. There are 6 comments.
In a Scotsman thread today, a regular forum poster known as Guga II writes:
Scotland is ... of no importance or consequence to London, other than as a source of funds from the exploitation of Scotland, to subsidise England.
So he’s claiming malicious intent towards Scotland on the part of successive British Governments. His vilification attempt is only one small step beyond the SNP’s assertion that – in their own words – “the UK Government want to exploit Scotland’s natural resources for their own financial gain”.

The only development of the SNP claim in Guga’s comment is that he seemingly wants the reader to make an association with London, with England.

The exploitation idea has no foundation. But time and again, we see nationalists – convinced of their own moral unassailability – attempting to portray their political opponents as morally inferior. There's a deep parcel o’ rogues mentality within the nationalist psyche, through which their political perspective becomes, to them, some kind of righteous cause. Some examples of vilification follow.

Winnie Ewing has described the unionist parties as “enemies of Scotland” and “traitors”.

Alex Salmond has spoken of “Whitehall's duplicity and trickery in its desperate desire to cheat Scotland”. Kenny MacAskill has made claims about successive UK governments “blatantly lying and deceiving the Scottish people”. Before last May’s election, Christina McKelvie implored us to “vote out these warmongering criminals” and to “teach the liars a serious lesson at the polls”.

Stewart Maxwell has referred to “the struggle for Independence” and Alex Salmond has used the phrase “our fight for independence”. John Swinney has referred to independence as “national freedom” and Ian Hudghton has spoken of the need to “reassert our right to independence”. From which oppressor, gentlemen? Which enemy? Whom do you imagine to be denying your rights?

Taking it even further, Angus MacNeil said that the inconclusive cash-for-honours probe sent out a message that “the UK is not a wholesome place”, and Rob Gibson, after calling for the “Blair regime” to be “indicted for war crimes” said that “the writ of British rule” must be “removed from our way of life”, thereby using such vilification to promote the SNP’s separation agenda.

Such remarks are almost always delivered in impersonal, institutional terms: the Government, the Unionist parties or even the UK as a whole. Never the English, Welsh or Northern Irish, of course. But wittingly or otherwise, the subtext is there, and CyberNats like Guga II often pick up on it.

So, in various of his previous postings to newspaper comment threads, he has had no qualms about referring to Scotland being oppressed by the “jackboot of English colonialism”, accusing the English of “raping and pillaging” Scotland, calling them “our colonial masters”, “foreigners” and “neighbours from hell”, saying that there is “no good reason to try and keep on their good side” and that “we actually need an ASBO against them, in the form of independence”.

I sometimes wonder if the so-called “civic nationalism” claimed by the SNP is, in fact, oxymoronic.
6 comments
  1. morris home August 3, 2008 2:06 PM  

    Some more examples of Gugga II thought processes.An exceptionally xenophobic nationalist who is in need of urgent medical treatment.




    " We will be happy to keep our nose out of foreign country's affairs, as soon as the English government keeps their nose, and their grasping, greedy paws, out of our affairs."


    "You have lost your marbles mate. The Stone of Destiny was stolen by the English, we didn't give it to them. Moreover, now that we have it back, it should never be sent back south to the English for the crowning of their German monarchy."

    http://news.scotsman.com/opinion/Marbles-expose-SNP.4278642.jp?CommentPage=1&CommentPageLength=1000#2988911

  2. scotleag August 3, 2008 2:49 PM  

    This guga is a real nutjob. Last year he claimed on several forums that Ken Livingston was spending hundreds of millions of council tax payers money on building mosques in London and offered that as a "reason" for voting SNP.

    Completely untrue as anyone with half a brain could have spotted. But what intrigued me was that the claim's original source was the British National Party. It seems that any source is okay to use, no matter how objectionable or obviously lying just as long as it fits their preconceived prejudices.

  3. bully wee alba August 4, 2008 12:36 PM  

    Guga's comments appear somewhat restrained compared with this one from "Jack", on the Northern Irish Unionist blog, "Unionist Lite"



    ... support for the SNP would drop dramatically as people realised this is what Scottish nationalists are really like: raving, bigoted loonies.

    July 31, 2008 5:55 PM

  4. Scottish Unionist August 4, 2008 4:49 PM  

    BWA

    You made me work to find that comment. It's on this post.

    His comment was prompted by the disgraceful nature of posts on the related Herald thread. I agree that it was far too general and unfairly tarred all nationalists with the same brush.

    However, your reference to Guga's comments as comparatively "restrained" seems very strange.

    Do you not remember the occasion when he complained about English people in Scotland making “no attempt to integrate into Scottish society” and - in a political sense - “interfering in Scotland”?

    What are your thoughts on such comments?

  5. morris home August 4, 2008 5:22 PM  

    The thoughts of Gugga II



    Guga II,Rockall
    So-called asylum seekers should be treated fairly and humanely. They should fairly and humanely be placed on the first aircraft out of the country and sent back to where they came from

    Guga II,Rockall
    The Scottish Office is a relic of the colonial era, and should be abolished along with the colonial government. Scotland does not need a foreign power to oversee us. We should be independent, now.

    As for posts #1 and #2, they are relics of the colonial past also. They are English but can't resist trying to interfere in Scottish affairs.

    http://news.scotsman.com/ViewArticle.aspx?articleid=3312712

  6. sm753 August 19, 2008 7:12 PM  

    An oldie but goodie to file under "nationalist rhetoric":

    27 September 2003 - Swinney: Now is time to tell Brits to get off

    http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/latestnews/Swinney-Now-is-time-to.2465184.jp

    Worth reminding ourselves of the mindset under the mask of reason.